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A Salt Lake businessman, who had what he says were bad dealings with the federal government over procurement of a device to move airplanes at air bases nine years ago, believes he should have a chance to tell his story to people investigating whether they should sell items to the government.

Thomas E. Judd, general manger of the Locomotive Works Division of the Ramos Corp., said he wanted to get on the agenda of a recent federal procurement workshop but was turned down. He also said a scheduled question and critique session at the end of the workshop wasn't held and that deprived him of asking questions about federal procurement.State and county federal procurement specialists tell a different story, although they admit not putting Judd on the workshop agenda.

Sam Cooper, a consultant in the Utah Federal Procurement Assistance Office, said he has been involved with 28 of these workshops in the past 21/2 years and people are encouraged to ask questions at any time. Also, each speaker remains after the seminar to listen to anyone not wanting to ask questions in front of the others.

Cooper said Judd came for the last portion of the workshop only and dominated the last 15 minutes by asking questions and voicing his opinion about his problems in dealing with the federal government over purchases.

Lee Roszczynski, a federal procurement specialist in the Salt Lake County Division of Job Training and Development, said she was willing to help Judd solve his problems, but he insisted on having 10 minutes on the agenda.

Roszczynski said Judd had a least 20 minutes to ask questions and present his views, which caused some of those attending the workshop to get irate because they had paid $10 to get some information about federal procurement procedures and had to listen to Judd.

Judd said he saw a newspaper advertisement on May 8 about the May 18 workshop on federal procurement and called to see if he could get on the agenda. He said he wants to make certain that people dealing with the federal government know there could be some problems such as he faced in 1979, the last year he tried to sell anything to the federal government.

Between 1958 and 1979, Judd had several contracts to sell items to the federal government, but there was always a problem getting paid. He said the federal government also had a rule that said if the contractor defaulted on the order or failed to meet specifications the government could terminate the contract, purchase the items from the next low bidder or on the open market and charge the original low bidder the difference in cost.

Judd said his last contract with the federal government was in 1979 to supply 10 special tractors for towing airplanes at U.S. Air Force bases. He completed the first tractor and an Air Force representative went to Judd's business to examine the tractor.

Claiming that several items on the tractor didn't meet specifications, the Air Force man said Judd had to purchase some components for the tractor from some large companies, which would increase the price. Judd complied with their wishes but vowed not to deal with the federal government again.

Judd said he submitted DD Form 250 for payment on the items he made for the federal government to the Defense Contracts Administration Services office in Salt Lake City, but it was returned three times by the payment office in Burlingame, Calif., causing lengthy delays.

He borrowed money to complete his projects for the government, but had to pay extra interest when the payments were delayed.