This northern Idaho city's anti-noise ordinance is nothing to shout about. The maximum daytime noise level is 55 decibels.

Normal conversation usually exceeds that limit, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says. So do dishwashers, hair dryers and vacuum cleaners. Clothes dryers are on the edge.Code enforcement officer Paul Telebar said he noticed something was amiss when most noises were in violation of the city law. He suggested an amendment more in keeping with national standards.

As a City Council subcommittee discussed raising the limit to 75 decibels, Telebar measured the discussion at 58 decibels.

"I've been taking decibel levels of this conversation, and we're in violation of our current code," he told the panel Monday.