Why this former BYU star believes UVU's Mark Pope has pedigree, attributes to be Cougars' next head coach
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Utah Valley Wolverines head coach Mark Pope disputes an offensive foul charge during the game against the Utah Utes at the Huntsman Center in Salt Lake City on Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2016. Spenser Heaps
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UVU coach Mark Pope as Brigham Young University defeats Utah Valley University 85-54 in men's NCAA basketball Friday, Nov. 13, 2015, in Provo.
Tom Smart
PROVO — Former BYU basketball player Travis Hansen met Mark Pope years ago when they were playing in the NBA.
Hansen was with the Atlanta Hawks, whose coach at the time was Terry Stotts, a longtime George Karl assistant. Pope was with the Denver Nuggets and he had played under both Karl and Stotts.
“So we have similar connections and similar personalities,” Hansen said.
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Pope and Hansen became friends and their relationship grew stronger when Pope became a BYU assistant coach and then head coach at Utah Valley University.
Hansen attended Dave Rose’s retirement press conference at the Marriott Center Tuesday to support his former coach. And, like many, he’s eager to see who the school will hire next to oversee the Cougar basketball program.
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose and his wife Cheryl and their family exit after he announced his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose receives a hug from his wife Cheryl as he announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose fights to hold back the tears as he listens to his wife Cheryl talk about his career as he announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU Women's head Jeff Judkins and former men's head coach Dave Roe greet eachother after Rose announced his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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Former player, Jackson Emery talks with his former coach Dave Rose after coach Rose announced his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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Cheryl Rose talks with her husband BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose prior to him announcing his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose looks over at his wife Cheryl as he announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose announces his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton, Deseret News
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Steve and Karon Winn spend a few moments with former BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose after he announced his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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Tom Holmoe, Director of Athletics at BYU announces head basketball coach Dave Rose prior to his announcing his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU head basketball coach Dave Rose and his wife Cheryl laugh as he talks after he announced his retirement at a news conference inside the Marriortt Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 26, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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Brigham Young Cougars head coach Dave Rose waves to a group of fans as BYU Cougars fall to the San Diego Toreros in WCC tournament action at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas on Sunday, March 10, 2019. San Diego won 80-57. | Scott G Winterton
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Brigham Young Cougars head coach Dave Rose yells out to his players as BYU Cougars and San Diego Toreros play in WCC tournament action at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas on Saturday, March 9, 2019. | Scott G Winterton
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Brigham Young head coach Dave Rose applauds his players on a scoring drive against Mississippi State in the first half of an NCAA college basketball game in Starkville, Miss., Saturday, Dec. 29, 2018. Mississippi State won 103-81. (AP Photo/Rogelio V. Solis) | AP
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Dave Rose speaks to members of the media after it was announced that he would take over as the new head coach of the BYU basketball team during a press conference at the Cougar Room at Lavell Edwards Stadium Monday, April 11, 2005. Rose served as an assistant coach under Steve Cleveland, who recently resigned to coach at Fresno State. Photo by Jason Olson (Submission date: 04/11/2005) | Jason Olson
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New BYU basketball coach Dave Rose in front of the Marriott. For a feature on the coach. June 28, 2005 Photo by Stuart Johnson (Submission date: 06/28/2005) | Stuart Johnson/Deseret Morning N
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Cheryl Rose (right) pins a boutonniere on her husband, BYU basketball coach, Dave Rose, at the Children with Cancer Christmas FoundationÕs annual Christmas party in Provo, Utah. Wednesday, December 16, 2009. (Michael Brandy, Deseret News) | Deseret News
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BYU head coach Dave Rose speaks to the fans during half-time at BYU's first official scrimmage as part of the Cougar Tipoff at the Marriott Center in Provo Wednesday, Oct. 28, 2009. Jason Olson, Deseret News | Deseret News
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BYU basketball head coach Dave Rose, right, and Utah's Jim Boylan walk off a green during a golf charity event for the Huntsman Cancer Institute at the Salt Lake County Club. Monday August 24, 2009 Stuart Johnson, Deseret News | Deseret News
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BYU coach Dave Rose (R) has a laugh with player Jonathan Tavernari during practice prior to their first NCAA game with Texas A&M in Philadelphia, PA, Wednesday, March 18, 2009. Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News | Deseret News
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BYU Head Coach Dave Rose holds up the net to the crowd after winnignthe MWC championship with their win over Wyoming. BYU vs. Wyoming men's basketball. March 5, 2008 Photo by Stuart Johnson
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BYU head coach Dave Rose holds aloft the Mountain West trophy as he and his team celebrate beating Utah 85-62 at the Marriott Center to claim the conference Title. Photo by Jason Olson | Jason Olson
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Dave Rose holds up some net after winning the Mountain West championship after beating Wyoming in Provo, Utah, Saturday, March 5, 2011. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News) | Deseret News
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SAN DIEGO, CA - FEBRUARY 26: Jimmer Fredette #32 of the Brigham Young Cougars celebrates with teammates and coach Dave Rose against the San Diego State Aztecs during the second half at Cox Arena on February 26, 2011 in San Diego, California. BYU beat SDSU 80-67. (Photo by Kent Horner/Getty Images) | Getty Images
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Brigham Young University head basketball coach Dave Rose, right, talks to the press as university spokeswoman Carrie Jenkins, center and BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe listen at a press conference in Provo, Utah, Thursday, March 3, 2011. The press conference was called to discuss BYU kicking their starting center, Brandon Davies off the third-ranked basketball team for violating BYU's honor code. (AP Photo/George Frey) | AP
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BYU's Head Coach Dave Rose talks to the media at a press conference prior to the Cougar's practice for their first round NCAA game against Florida on Thursday. Wednesday, March 17, 2010. Photo by Scott G Winterton Deseret News. | Deseret News
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BYU coach Dave Rose with players Jackson Emery, Tyler Haws and Jimmer Fredette (l to r) as Brigham Young University defeats the University of Utah 82-69 in men's MWC basketball, Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010,in Provo, Utah. Tom Smart, Deseret News
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Brigham Young guard Jimmer Fredette heads to the bench during a time out as he gets encouragement from Brigham Young head coach Dave Rose near the end of the game as BYU plays against UNLV in the Mountain West Conference basketball Championship Tournament at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada Friday, March 12, 2010. August Miller, Deseret News
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BYU basketball Dave Rose take questions from the media just before his team takes the floor for practice at the KFC Yum! Center in Louisville, Kentucky for the NCAA Basketball Tournament 2nd round match-up with Marquette. Wednesday, March 14, 2012 (Stuart Johnson/Deseret News) | Deseret News
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BYU coach Dave Rose talks to guard Jimmer Fredette during practice at the Pepsi Center in Denver on Wednesday, March 16, 2011, as BYU gets ready for an NCAA college basketball tournament second-round game against Wofford on Thursday. (AP Photo/ Ed Andrieski) | AP
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BYU coach Dave Rose is congratulated by his wife, Cheryl, as BYU defeats Mercer 90-71 as they play men's basketball in the second round of the NIT tournament Monday, March 25, 2013, in Provo. | Deseret News
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Brigham Young Cougars forward Brandon Davies (0) shows his emotions with Brigham Young Cougars head coach Dave Rose after the Cougars lost to the Baylor Bearswalks during the NIT Final Four in New York City Tuesday, April 2, 2013. | Deseret News
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BYU's Head Coach Dave Rose greets Tyler Haws as Haws leaves the game having scored 42 points as BYU and Virginia Tech play Saturday, Dec. 29, 2012 at Energy Solutions arena. BYU won 97-71. | Deseret News
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BYU's Head Coach Dave Rose, tosses a ball to a player during practice Wednesday, March 19, 2014 in the Bradley Center, as they prepare to play Oregon in the second round of the NCAA tournament in Milwaukee on Thursday. | Deseret News
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BYU coach Dave Rose calls out to players on the floor as BYU and Oregon play Thursday, March 20, 2014 in the second round of the 2014 NCAA tournament in Milwaukee. Oregon won 87-68. Rose expects BYU to improve next season.
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BYU Brigham Young Cougars head coach Dave Rose shakes hands with his former assistant UVU coach Mark Pope after Brigham Young University defeats Utah Valley University 85-54 in men's NCAA basketball Friday, Nov. 13, 2015, in Provo.
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BYU's and UVU's head basketball coaches Dave Rose and Mark Pope laugh as they team up to make sandwiches for customers at a Subway in Orem to show support for Coaches vs. Cancer on Tuesday, Jan. 30, 2018. | Scott G Winterton
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BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe, right, laughs as head basketball coach Dave Rose, jokes about his stitches as he addresses questions about future plans during a press conference at the Marriott Center in Provo Wednesday, June 24, 2009. Rose was recently diagnosed with pancreatic cancer after falling ill during a family vacation. He underwent emergency surgery in Las Vegas to remove the tumor and the disease is now considered in remission. He plans on resting up during the summer and returning to coaching full time for the 2009-2010 season. Jason Olson, Deseret News | Deseret News
From Hansen’s perspective, Pope, who served as Rose’s top assistant for four years, would be a great fit for BYU among a solid group of candidates.
“I think he’d be phenomenal in business. He could do a startup. He has the passion and energy. When Rose announced his retirement, I texted Mark, ‘Buckle up!’ He said, ‘I’m always buckled, bro.’ He’s just unique,” Hansen said of Pope. “When you build an organization, a leader is hard to find. I don’t know where to start to name all the attributes he has. Then he goes and marries Lynn Archibald’s daughter, who’s 9.9 on the scale of a perfect coach’s wife. She’s so good. They’re a power couple.
“Mark has the pedigree, which is really important with players,” Hansen continued. “And the credibility that he has — he won a national championship as a player, he played under (Rick) Pitino and he played in the NBA. You can check all of those boxes.”
It appears that Pope is also on the radar of other schools looking for new head coaches. There are reports that he is a candidate for openings at Cal, Georgia State and UNLV.
Hansen's not the only one who believes in Pope's potential. Pitino, the former Kentucky and Louisville coach, recently tweeted, “With all of the job openings, someone should jump to hire Mark Pope. He has done a great job at Utah Valley. 5 star teacher, recruiter, and person. A superstar on the horizon.”
From my point of view, there will be a lot of candidates. The school will go through the due process. They’ll make sure they talk to every candidate out there and interview them. I’m biased with Mark. If it’s not BYU, he’ll end up somewhere. We’re either going to watch him on BYUtv or on ESPN, because the guy’s good. – Travis Hansen, on UVU coach Mark Pope
Because he’s coached at BYU, Pope knows the landscape, and the challenges, at BYU in regard to the coming and going of missionaries, the honor code and strict academic standards. Is that a challenge Pope wants?
“It depends on whether he wants to make a ton of money and go to these different opportunities,” Hansen said. “Thank goodness he’s a member of (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). Thank goodness he decided to go into coaching instead of medical school because I think the candidate pool would be weakened if he were not in there.
“I think other guys could do the job for sure, but he’s special,” Hansen continued. “I’d be ignorant enough to think that I could take BYU to the Final Four. I think he’s built the same way. I think he’d take on the challenge, personally. I don’t know who else is talking to him. I know his name has been thrown around — University of California and Georgia State. I know the NBA has reached out to him. I know he has opportunities. I hope that he goes to BYU, personally.”
At UVU, Pope has taken the Wolverines to new heights with a 77-55 record (.583), including three straight CBI appearances. He reportedly earns a base salary of $1.275 million as part of his six-year contract. He signed an extension last summer.
Meanwhile, there are several other candidates out there that BYU could contact and interview, including Los Angeles Lakers assistant coach Mark Madsen, who was a finalist for the UVU job before Pope was hired; Philadelphia 76ers assistant coach Kevin Young, who is a Salt Lake City native and has significant support from BYU alums with NBA ties; Alex Jensen, a Utah Jazz assistant; Jon Judkins, the head coach at Dixie State; and Quincy Lewis, who has been a BYU assistant since 2015 and is currently the Cougars’ interim head coach.
At his press conference Tuesday, Rose said that the pool of candidates to replace him is “really big,” adding that “when you consider four out of the last five coaches here at BYU were hired without any Division I (head) coaching experience, there’s a large net that’s got to be thrown out here to find the right guy.”
Hansen believes Pope is the right guy.
“From my point of view, there will be a lot of candidates. The school will go through the due process,” he said. “They’ll make sure they talk to every candidate out there and interview them. I’m biased with Mark. If it’s not BYU, he’ll end up somewhere. We’re either going to watch him on BYUtv or on ESPN, because the guy’s good.”
UVU coach Mark Pope grimaces during game against BYU Friday, Nov. 13, 2015, in Provo. | Tom Smart
Former BYU star Jackson Emery didn't play for Pope but he knows what Pope would bring to the Cougars.
“I was around the program when he was there," he said. "People have nothing but great things to say about him. He’s very much a players' coach. He has a lot of pride in making sure he’s that kind of individual."
Emery added there are other strong candidates for the job.
"I am biased toward Quincy Lewis. He was my high school coach. I feel like he was beyond his ability to be a high school coach and could do something at the next level from building a program and building individual skill-set programs," Emery said. "After I played at BYU, I felt he would be a great assistant and a great head coach at the next level. Those two guys, Mark and Quincy, have a lot opportunities to do great things with BYU if they get that opportunity.”
Former Cougar guard Skyler Halford played for Pope at BYU and would like to see him get a shot as head coach.
“There are a lot of good candidates out there with a lot of good experience. I obviously am close to coach Pope because he was an assistant while I was at BYU. Just watching what he’s done at UVU, he’s been really successful," he said. "He has great mentors like coach Rose and coach Pitino. I think he’d be a great fit for the program. He’s already been there and he knows how things work.
“He knows the game. He played it for a long time and played for great coaches and coached with great coaches," Halford continued. "He’s got the Xs and Os and recruiting down. He’s a coach that really knows how to get in touch with his players and understand them and get the most out of them.
“You have one conversation with Mark Pope and you feel better because of it. You have the feeling he’s interested in you. That’s something I’ve always admired about him. His energy is level 100. With his UVU team, he’ll come in with squirt guns or water balloons after a big win. He makes the game fun but not to where you’re losing that mental edge."
Halford recalled Pope's love for BYU when he coached in Provo.
“I remember a week before we played Utah, one of the players came into the locker room before practice with a red sweatshirt on," he said. "It didn’t have a ‘U’ on it or anything, obviously. Coach Pope said, ’Take that shirt off!’ He literally made the guy take the shirt off and throw it outside the locker room. He was so amped for that Utah game that seeing the color red lit a fire under him.”
Pope is married to Lee Anne Archibald, a BYU graduate. Her dad, the late Lynn Archibald, was Utah’s head coach in the 1980s and an assistant at BYU in the 1990s. Lee Anne’s brothers, Damon and Beau, have coached at the major college level.
But Pope hasn’t been in the coaching business very long, relatively speaking.
About a decade ago, he was three years into studying at the University of Columbia School of Physicians and Surgeons when he left to take a basketball coaching job.
Before being hired by Rose at BYU, he had spent one season as the director of basketball operations at Georgia, followed by one season as an assistant at Wake Forest.
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Pope and Rose became acquainted while they were both on the road recruiting. When Rose had an opening on his staff, Pope aggressively pursued the position.
As a player, Pope, a 6-foot-10 center, played at Washington, then transferred to Kentucky, where he helped the Wildcats win the 1996 national championship. He then embarked on a nine-year professional career, both in the NBA and overseas.
During his playing career, Pope had a wide array of experiences, from the glory of winning an NCAA title to being a reserve at the end of an NBA bench, that has shaped his coaching style.
“Dealing with the game mentally and emotionally is tricky,” Pope said while he was a BYU assistant. “They’re vulnerable kids, they’re chasing dreams, they’re dealing with changing dynamics all the time. Going through that process helps you relate to what they’re feeling on a day-to-day standpoint. I’ve been really, really blessed to be with great players and how they do things. The way you stay alive is by trying to listen to every innuendo the coach throws out there and you try to do it exactly the way he wants you to. That’s how you stay alive. I was blessed to be around great people. Hopefully, all of those little things I was able to pick up along the way, I can pass on to guys if they’re interested. That’s been really helpful. Then there’s the experience of going through it.”
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