Never mind Dan and Dave. If you're talking the greatest athlete in the world, somewhere not too far into the discussion you've got to bring up Jackie Joyner-Kersee.
How good is she?Let's put it this way, after four of the seven events in the heptathlon at the Olympic Track and Field Trials, she was 266 points ahead even though she said going in she wasn't going to push too hard here.
"Overall I'm happy with my first day," Joyner-Kersee said. "I really wasn't pleased at all with the high jump and I had some problems with the shot."
Joyner-Kersee cleared 6-feet, one-quarter inch to tie for second in the high jump behind Cindy Greiner's 6-2.
It's not her favorite event. In fact, she and husband-coach Bob Kersee have been debating whether she will enter the high jump in the trials. She doesn't want to, but he thinks she should.
Joyner-Kersee led the shot put with a 50-21/4 mark.
When it comes to winning the heptathlon, Joyner-Kersee has plenty of experience and maybe a little extra motivation from her first Olympic try.
It looked as if Joyner-Kersee would take the heptathlon in the 1984 Olympics, when she took the lead after the javelin with just one event to go. But she struggled in the 800-meter run, finishing in 2:13.03.
When the huddle at the scorer's table was over, Glynis Nunn of Australia had the gold with 6,390 points, Joyner-Kersee got the silver with 6,385.
In the next four years, Joyner-Kersee won all nine heptathlons she entered, and by the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, she was ready to make history.
Joyner-Kersee set the world record - 7,291 points - in winning the gold medal. It was her fourth record in the event.
It's not hard to see why she has such a lock on the event. She is the United States record holder and former world record holder in the long jump at 24-51/2. She is the second-fastest 100-meter hurdler in U.S. history with a best of 12.61. Her personal best in the shot put is 55-3, good enough to qualify for the Olympic Trials in that event.
Her time in the 200 on Saturday was 23.67, the best of the day, but far from her 22.30 best.
"I lost my balance a little bit on the curve running the 200, but I was happy just to be able to finish it. I was getting cramps before the race, so they were giving me IVs."
Greiner, who stood second after the first day, also had to have an IV before the race because of dehydration.
The 200 was the final heptalathon event of the day and Joyner-Kersee went to see her physical therapist immediately after it.
Sunday she has to be ready for another hot day. The long jump begins at 12:30 p.m., followed by the javelin and the 800 meters at 4:25 p.m. - long before sunset.
Then she can rest up until the other three events she's entered here: the long jump, which she won at the 1988 Olympics; the 100-meter hurdles, in which she formerly held the American record; and the high jump.