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In praise of Rob Bishop and Gary Herbert

We worked with Bishop and Herbert. They are two ‘authentically decent people’

Rep. Rob Bishop and Gov. Gary Herbert
Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, left, talks with Gov. Gary Herbert, right, following Herbert’s monthly news conference at KUED in Salt Lake City on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2016.
Ravell Call, Deseret News

Most people never get the opportunity to know their elected officials on a personal level. That’s a shame because most public officials are wonderful, interesting individuals and we tend to be more sympathetic and nicer toward people we know personally, even if we disagree with them.

In that spirit, we’d like to share some personal observations about two of Utah’s recently retired elected officials for whom we were privileged to work over the past two decades. Former Gov. Gary R. Herbert and former Rep. Rob Bishop are both authentically decent people who have collectively spent many decades modeling the humility, hard work and collaborative spirit that define Utah’s success.

Rob Bishop

Rob Bishop, who retired in January after 18 years representing Utah’s 1st District in the U.S. House of Representatives. He has a sarcastic and self-deprecating sense of humor, hates the Senate and wearing socks, and is fond of Dr Pepper and baseball. In fact, he’s not just fond of baseball, he’s a walking almanac of baseball history. His office was filled with baseball memorabilia, and staffers knew Rob was more likely to approve an op-ed or speech that included a baseball analogy or a quote by Yogi Berra.

Rep. Rob Bishop pictured her in 2019.
Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, laughs during a meeting with the Deseret News and KSL editorial boards in Salt Lake City in 2019.
Scott G Winterton, Deseret News

Beyond Rob’s fun quirks, he was also a loyal and considerate boss. Congress is infamously full of self-absorbed people who are rotten or demanding toward staff, but Rob was the opposite. He insisted on being called “Rob” rather than Congressman, and he preferred to open the door and hold it for others rather than letting staff do it for him. Perhaps it’s how he subtly resisted the entitlement mentality that members of congress sometimes develop. Rob never sought nor felt comfortable with the perks, plaudits and attention of being a member of Congress.

In his heart, Rob is still the Box Elder High School history teacher who is mesmerized by U.S. history and wants to share his passion with others. Every fall he partnered with the Close Up Foundation and served as the personal tour guide to dozens of high school students from Northern Utah, driving them to Gettysburg battlefield or Colonial Williamsburg to show them elements of our national history and offer them personal time with their Congressman they’ll likely never forget.

Gary Herbert

Gary Herbert is cut from the same cloth. In our roles we saw the governor interact with presidents, prime ministers, cabinet members and other governors. We’ve also seen him take time to chat with Utahns and others who recognize him at airports or grocery stores. He was the ideal ambassador for Utah because he exemplifies the best of Utah’s culture and ethics. Even those who disagree with his policy views admire and like him — they recognize in him a person of good character, hard work, intelligence and generosity. For the past decade, Gary Herbert’s good example has correctly convinced many people around the world that Utah is a good place with good people.

Utah Gov. Gary Herbert.
Former Utah Gov. Gary Herbert is photographed at the Utah Valley Chamber of Commerce in Provo on Thursday, May 6, 2021.
Laura Seitz, Deseret News

Like Rob, Gary Herbert is the type of leader our Founding Fathers envisioned serving as a public official, an ordinary citizen drawn from a common walk of life. If dinner is Gary Herbert’s choice, he doesn’t pick an expensive steak but a burger and milkshake. He loves the Beach Boys, old movies and Sunday dinners with his six kids and 17 grandchildren.

And the former governor’s instinct to find consensus and his refusal to view political opponents as enemies has shaped Utah’s political debates for the past decade. It also means he has a knack for developing friendships with people from completely different backgrounds.

Over their years of traveling to Washington, D.C., he and his wife Jeanette developed a tender friendship with Virginia Ali, owner of Ben’s Chili Bowl, the iconic diner the governor loved to visit and which played a prominent role in the civil rights movement. To Gary Herbert, background is irrelevant. He is cheerful, kind and curious toward everyone.

One of the age old tragedies of politics is when passion about important topics creates bad feelings toward individuals with whom we disagree. If we could see our public officials up close, we’d realize that most are great people with a sense of humor, a loving family, and a strong desire to help people. Gary Herbert and Rob Bishop certainly fit that description.

Here’s to a happy retirement for both of them.

Gordon Larsen and Cody Stewart both served in a variety of positions for both Gov. Gary Herbert and Rep. Rob Bishop.