The Utah Utes, who entered the Pac-12 Championship Game against Oregon dreaming of the College Football Playoff or, at worst, the Rose Bowl, now find themselves on the outside looking in. Hello, San Antonio. So what went wrong against the Ducks? And how will the Utes respond when they face an unranked 7-5 Texas Longhorns team in the Alamo Bowl? One thing Ute Insiders Dirk Facer, Mike Sorensen and Jody Genessy agree on is the ’Horns shouldn’t be taken lightly (remember the fight they put up against both LSU and Oklahoma?). The three also talk Pac-12 all-conference honors (there were many for the Utes) and revisit Utah’s comeback victory over BYU on the hardwoods. That and more on this week’s episode.
Dirk Facer: On this edition of the Deseret News Ute Insiders podcast, brought to you by Mr. Mac, the gang talks about Utah’s loss to Oregon in the Pac-12 title game, we look ahead to the Alamo Bowl, we talk a little hoops. That and more on the Deseret News Ute Insiders podcast.
Welcome to yet another edition of the Deseret News Ute Insiders podcast. I’m Dirk Facer, joined by Mike Sorensen and Jody Genessy. How are you?
Mike Sorensen: I’m doing great. How are you?
Jody Genessy: Great.
DF: Shaving that beard probably took 20 pounds off you. What do you think? It was a good beard, though.
JG: It was a good start to my diet. I’m gong to run out of body hair though here pretty soon to shave off.
DF: Mike, you grow a beard every November. It’s December, though. Why’s it still on your face?
MS: We’ll let it go till after Christmas so I can play Santa Claus. How’s that?
DF: As long as your wife approves. Let’s face it, guys, it’s not our decision. So we’ll see how long that beard lasts, Mike. I think Connie’s gonna win this one. Let’s jump right into the Pac-12 title game guys. Not a very good outing for Utah. Mike, did it surprise you that Utah was dominated so much on the line of scrimmage?
MS: Yeah, I wasn’t that surprised by the outcome. I mean, I thought Utah would win the game. But the offensive line looked like a sieve. All night Tyler Huntley was running for his life. Six sacks? I mean, he hadn’t had that ever. I mean not since last year anyway. And on defense, they couldn’t stop that little guy. You know, the guy gets 200 yards on them. So the line of scrimmage just didn’t look like the same one Utah had all year.
DF: Jody, what do you think the problem was?
JG: Well, I think it all started up with the line. And I was more surprised by the defensive line because the offensive line has probably been one of the weaker links. I think they’ve progressed over the year and they got better at giving Huntley time and opening holes for (Zack) Moss. But the defensive line, with three potential NFL players, I just thought they got dominated most of the time, and it was disappointing. I think after such a great season, it was interesting and weird to see them play like that. They’re usually the ones that punch the other team in the face. And this time they got just manhandled.
DF: The one thing that’s been lost in this great season is they had to win eight straight games just to get to the Pac-12 title game, which meant eight weeks were essentially championship games for them, where they had to win. I mean, there was a little pressure and they did well. Mike, we talked about the the run. What a fall though. I mean, that one loss probably knocked them — the second loss of the season, obviously, but they fell from the College Playoff possibility. I mean, everything else worked out in their favor. If they would have won the game they probably would have been in the playoff. The Rose Bowl was there and now they’re going to San Antonio for the Alamo Bowl. Do you think that’s an epic fall? Or how do you see that?
MS: Well it’s kind of funny you know, two or three years ago that would have been a tremendous accomplishment to go the Alamo Bowl. That’s the No. 1 bowl for the Pac-12, you know, among the main bowls. I think one of the biggest things is that the skeptics are right. You know, I mean all these people who said Utah doesn’t deserve to be there, they were kind of proven right by the way Utah played. That was something they didn’t want to happen. I don’t think it’s gonna hurt the program long term, but it’s just kind of like people who doubted Utah and said they shouldn’t be there, they can all laugh and say, yeah, we knew they shouldn’t be there. It’s just kind of like Utah’s just another team.
JG: Here’s the frustrating thing for me, though. Mike is right and that’s the common perception that Utah was shown to be a fraud or whatever. But Georgia got crunched in the SEC game and you know, they’re still going to the Sugar Bowl. Virginia got annihilated in the ACC championship game and they get to go to the Orange Bowl. Obviously, the teams that beat them are going into the College Football Playoff, but everybody’s focusing in on Utah and how Utah shouldn’t have even been there and how dare they pretend that they’re worthy of being amongst the big boys. Everybody kind of gives those other teams that got clobbered a little bit more grace than they’re giving Utah. I think it’s an unfair standard.
MS: Oregon kind of beat Utah twice by losing the Arizona State game two weeks before that. Otherwise, Utah would be going to the Rose Bowl and everybody would be happy.
DF: Yeah, I mean, it’s amazing because I do think Oregon is an elite team. I think Utah’s an elite team. But the Pac-12 obviously didn’t get any respect as far as the New Year’s Six bowls and that. Utah is technically one step out of a spot in the New Year’s Six. But you know, San Antonio will be good. They’re excited to be able to go. You know, they recruit heavily in Texas. So the chance to play the Texas Longhorns in San Antonio. We talked about for weeks that the Rose Bowl was kind of a consolation prize for the College Football Playoff. The Alamo Bowl is probably a consolation prize for not getting in the Rose Bowl. I mean, like you said Mike, after the Rose Bowl it’s the first choice of the selection process in the Pac-12. So I guess they’ll make the best of it.
MS: The Cotton Bowl would have been better, prestige-wise, but playing Memphis in Dallas? I think maybe Utah fans would rather be spending New Year’s Eve against Texas in the Alamo Bowl. You know, even though it might be perceived as slightly more prestigious. I don’t know if that would be such a great thing for them to go to.
JG: I think San Antonio is a fun spot. I mean, just as far as getting some bang for your buck, dollar-wise. San Antonio has the Riverwalk, the Alamo. I think it’s a fun city, good food. That’s usually where I judge a city is the culinary aspect. Give me a little Tex-Mex. But it is disappointing because that’s a huge dropoff from the Rose Bowl to the Alamo Bowl honestly. And you know, the Alamo Bowl handed out the sheet that said they’re the No. 1 non-New Year’s Six bowl. Yeah, whoop-de-doo.
DF: They fill the place, I looked up the numbers and they get 60,000 people to the game. The Longhorns are 7-5, Mike, and they fired their defensive coordinator, former Utah State coordinator Todd Orlando, at the end of the season and they reassigned their offensive coordinator. So technically Utah’s going against a young Texas team that has no coordinators right now. And they’re 7-5, unranked, but they did put a scare into LSU and a scare into Oklahoma, two teams in the playoff. They lost by a touchdown each. Is Texas better than their record shows or is Utah playing maybe like they did, a West Virginia team a couple years ago in the Heart of Dallas bowl that really doesn’t have much to offer? I mean, Utah should be able to go in there and win but the Longhorns have proven they can be good.
MS: Yeah, at the start of the year they were picked up by a lot of teams to be a top 10 or 15 team. People look at 7-5 and don’t look at the record of the individual games. They lost to LSU by seven, that’s pretty darn good. They’re the No. 1 team in the country. And they scored 38 points on them. And most other games were really close. So they’re a good team. I think where Utah has an advantage is their defense is terrible — Texas is. They ranked like 108th in the country in total defense out of 130 teams. They gave up 200 yards more than Utah did — 456 yards. And then in scoring, they gave up 29 points a game. So I think Utah’s offense has a chance, if they get in gear, to do well. I think the problem is going to be Texas is very good offensively. And so if Utah’s defense is like last week, you know, they’re going to give up 20 or 30 points. So then they’ll just outscore them. So it could be a 35-31 type game and Utah’s just got to outscore them.
DF: Jody, Texas has got a prolific passing game, and Utah had some injuries in the championship game, losing Julian Blackmon and RJ Hubert to injuries. Is that going to be a big factor in this game? Because Texas has the leading receiver in the country, he caught 103 passes, and their quarterback’s really good. Is it going to come down to Utah’s defensive line’s gotta wake up from last week’s slumber and put some pressure on him so he has to make some quick throws? And then the secondary is obviously decimated a little bit at safety.
JG: Yeah I think it’s gonna be interesting because Kyle did mention that these could be some severe injuries, so it’s possible we won’t see either of those two guys. Probably probable that we won’t see those two guys in the Alamo Bowl. But except for the USC game, and then Oregon didn’t kill them in the pass game as much as they did the run, you’ve seen a Utah team that was able to get their linebackers involved, they have a deep defensive backfield, and then if they can get that pressure up front, that’s gonna make the biggest impact. My favorite thing this week was to see some BYU fans bring up that infamous photo of Taysom Hill running over the Texas defender and some Texas fans were like whoa, wait a sec, aren’t you Utah’s rival? I think BYU fans love to needle Texas for those wins the Cougars had over them as well. I thought that was a fun aspect.
DF: The orangebloods don’t take kindly to comments against their Longhorns, do they?
JG: Right. I think it’s a fun matchup. I would rather see this Texas team than, you know, Memphis or some other team like that. But interestingly enough, it was Utah that kind of paved the way for teams like Memphis to get included into the New Year’s Six mix. And then Memphis kind of plays a factor in excluding Utah from the New Year’s Six bowls.
DF: You know, it’s the way the system is. Like you said, Utah, all things considered, and with it being in their recruiting footprint, probably a good thing. Especially if they have a good showing in Texas.
MS: Yeah, it’s probably good playing Texas. They could have played Iowa State or Kansas State or Oklahoma State. Those are the other teams that were kind of on the same level as Texas. So I think having a local team — Texas is a big name. I mean going back to when we were younger, Texas was a name program unlike some of these other ones. So I think that’s the best possible matchup Utah could have hoped for.
DF: Mark Harlan pleaded for Utah fans to support the senior class and get to the game. There’s gonna be a lot of burnt orange in that crowd, don’t you think?
JG: Yeah, Austin’s just a hop, skip and a jump away from San Antonio. And that whole area is Texas anyway, that’s Longhorn country right there. But I think it’d be a fun trip for Ute fans. The Ute fans, I thought, represented themselves well at the Pac-12 championship game. I don’t know if they spent all their money there and are going to decide not to go.
DF: It’s not a cheap place to get to.
JG: I drove there a couple years ago. It’s a really long drive.
DF: Are you a volunteering to drive a bus filled with Ute fans? All aboard the Jody Express.
DF: The All-Pac-12 teams came out today. Kyle Whittingham was Pac-12 Coach of the Year, Zach Moss the Offensive Player of the Year. Utah had eight guys make the first team. Was Utah well-represented, Mike, in your opinion?
MS: Yeah, I mean, that’s as much as I think anybody can expect, eight guys on first team. Utah was obviously one of the two best teams in the league so they should be well represented and I think it shows how much talent they have. Looking forward to the NFL Draft, a lot of those eight guys that are going to the draft will be playing in the NFL next year.
JG: And 10 of the 11 defensive starters were either first or second team. That’s phenomenal. I think the bigger question is not with Utah, but Oregon only had five players on the first and second team.
DF: I was surprised that Oregon — and Herbert really surprised me. He ended up honorable mention. That’s a big thing for Tyler Huntley to be first team don’t you think, Mike?
MS: Oh, yeah, especially going into the year, nobody would have ever dreamed that. But I think he deserved it. You know, if you don’t look at the last game. And over the course of the year he was probably, you know, the best quarterback in the league.
JG: He was so efficient, you know, and he was known for being able to escape with his legs and he ended up using his arms and his football IQ more than his legs this year, because of the injury, and I think Andy Ludwig really worked with him a lot. I mean, you saw some of those throws he made. He was just throwing clothesline passes, 40 yards downfield. I mean, just a terrific, efficient player. And I thought he really came along well. I was talking to Kent Condon, our esteemed sports editor, earlier today. The Heisman candidates were announced and there was a push for him, the Huntley for Heisman. Zack Moss, I think that the Utes might have kind of underplayed Zack Moss a little bit.
DF: I agree, I don’t think he was ever Pac-12 Player of the Week, right. And then he’s the Offensive Player of the Year.
JG: So they should have done a Hallandale High for Heisman campaign maybe. I don’t say that they did something wrong by promoting Tyler Huntley to be Heisman, but they probably should have thrown Zach Moss in there as well.
DF: Yeah, the Heisman campaign to me is such a long shot. And I was able to go a few years ago when Alex Smith was a finalist and I remember Reggie Bush was ticked that year because Alex Smith came and fourth and he came in fifth. You know, they were high school teammates, and he was little mad that you know, here he is tailback at USC and he’s behind the Utah quarterback in the voting.
And you know, Utah had a change in its sports information department leadership and I think that maybe slowed the process because they didn’t get their campaign started as early. But like you said, I don’t think people saw Tyler Huntley doing what he did. And you know, Zack Moss obviously is one of the premier backs in the country and it is good to see him honored. What about Kyle Whittingham? Mike, he’s done a heck of a job. Do you think that Coach of the Year honor is well-deserved?
MS: Oh, yeah, has he ever got one before? At least for as long as he’s been coaching there he should have at least one in his career.
DF: He was National Coach of the Year, obviously, and I think he was Mountain West back in ’08.
MS: Yeah, I mean, they were picked to win. A lot of times if you’re picked people say, oh anybody could have done that. But no, he had a great year and I think he’s deserving of that.
DF: Move on to Morgan Scalley. He was a finalist for the Broyles Award, but it went to the LSU passing coordinator, fancy that, because Joe Burrow and the Tigers are obviously having a phenomenal season. But we all know Morgan pretty well. Jody and I have known him since he was a kid at Highland High School, and Mike’s a Highland alum. So he’s aware of that. But Jody, were you disappointed? Do you think he should have won the Broyles Award?
JG: No. I mean, I think being the top five is just perfect for him. I mean, LSU is phenomenal this year, and I don’t think — he doesn’t have to hang his head at all, to not win that award. He’s rubbing shoulders with other great assistant coaches. I think it shows how valuable he is to the University of Utah, coinciding with the Utes extending his contract.
DF: Well, that’s good. Mike, obviously Morgan’s had a great year and there’s probably a lot of interest. That amendment to his contact is interesting because they want to keep him and I think he wants to stay here.
MS: I think so. Think about it — he’s been at Utah more than half of his life. I mean, from the time he was a player when he was 18 years old and now he’s 40. I mean, and he’s been there pretty much every year since you know, just as a graduate assistant and assistant coach, he played there for four years, so he’s a Utah man through and through. Kyle has indicated he’s not going to coach for more than four or five more years, maybe it’s going to be two or three years. Morgan’s only 40, I mean, he’s still a very young man. They talk about these coach-in-waiting contracts, and whether that’s in there that we don’t know about or something. But you know, it might just be one of those things where they just kind of have a wink-wink type thing that you know, if you stick around you’re going to be the guy. And so I think if he does that, he makes better money than he might at some other school as a head coach and then if he goes to some poor program — people talk about UNLV, you know, and then you have a couple of 3-9 seasons and all sudden you’re not a good coach anymore. So I think the U. was smart to lock him up for a few more years and smart for him just to hang in and do what he does does so well.
JG: Yeah, it was fun yesterday, Ryan McDonald, a fellow sports writer here. Great guy, great sports writer, tweeted out a story that I wrote — it was a fun look back at Morgan Scalley when he won the inaugural Mr. Utah football award back in 1997. And at that time, it was interesting to reread that story, even the University of Utah wasn’t necessarily high on Morgan Scalley at the time because of his size: 5-foot-11 You know, he he had a good build but he was he was only 180 pounds. And he was a tremendous all-around player. He averaged 11 yards per carry. He was so much fun to watch. I loved what Morgan said that he he wanted to follow his hero, Bud Scalley, his dad, to the University of Utah. So he has dreamed of being a Ute guy and having this be his path since he was a little boy and I love that he ended up at the U., was an All-American safety, just a tremendous player, a great guy and now he’s on that coaching path.
And I think the Utes would be smart. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t a, as Mike said, a wink-wink, nod-nod little agreement in between the lines there.
DF: Yeah, I agree and like you said, to be able to follow his father’s footsteps at Utah, it’s just a great story. And he’s born in Salt Lake City. And as Mike said, he’s a Utah man through and through.
MS: And an old Ram.
DF: I didn’t want to bring that up. But yeah, the rival to my East High Leopards. But he’s a good guy and would have been cool if he won that award.
JG: I like that he admitted that he used to get beat up by his sister.
DF: Yeah. I don’t know if you guys watched the live streaming of the award today but they had all the finalists speak and he thanked Tom Kingsford and Wilson and his guys from Highland, and he thanked Coach Whit, Urban Meyer, Ron McBride, he was very humble about it. And I think one of the last things he said was I’m not going to win this thing, I’m just glad to be here. It was kind of funny. Very humble guy and got a free trip to Little Rock out of it so.
JG: I was gonna watch it but thanks to you not giving a spoiler alert I guess I don’t have to now.
DF: There we go. Hey guys, the NFL draft. Lot of Utes. I’ve heard rumors that maybe 10 guys could end up being drafted or in NFL camps. At the press availability the other day Terelle Burgess and Darren Paulo said that they had no indication from anybody that they were going to sit the Alamo Bowl out to prepare for the NFL. That seems to be a cool thing now with a lot of guys, and you can’t blame them after seeing an injury like Julian Blackmon. Do you guys anticipate any of the seniors sitting out the Senior Bowl? I mean the players say that nobody’s gonna sit out, they all want to play. What do you think?
MS: think it is possible but I think it’s stupid, myself. I mean, I just think any game you play you could get injured, you know? And so you can say, OK, I’m not gonna play football. I mean, you get injured in practice. So I mean, OK, there’s one more game you might get injured in and you want to save yourself, but you’ve played your whole career there. Why not play in your last bowl game? So you know, whether they do or not, I think they all should play.
JG: Yeah, I don’t like that trend, either. Maybe I sort of kind of understand why they don’t like it. Doesn’t mean I have to like that they do that. But this has been such a special group of seniors, I really hope that they don’t sit out. Obviously for injury purposes, if they are injured and they don’t want to get injured anymore, then I understand that. But yeah, the same thing goes with the basketball. I just can’t stand it when guys say, oh, I don’t want to play for my Olympic team or my national team because I might get injured. Well guess what? They’re going to be playing at the rec center or in the church gym or somewhere anyway, so, I mean, you’re more likely to get injured — I suffered, as athletic as I am, I suffered an injury in my daughter’s junior high the other day. It can happen anywhere. I’m not sitting out the bowl game. I rolled my ankle. I have a booboo on my elbow.
DF: I thought you were going to say a groin injury or something gross. You know, that we don’t talk about on this podcast.
JG: You’re the one that brought this up.
DF: I know but I’m saying let’s stop and move on. Mike, last thing on that. Are the guys going to be motivated to bounce back and get the bad taste out of their mouth and finish this thing off with a 12-win season? Do you anticipate that? And I’m talking specifically about those seniors who had really high hopes that were dashed.
MS: I think if it was being played this week, it would be. But the fact they have three more weeks to kind of forget about it and move on. Practice, have fun at Christmas, whatever they want to do. I think by the end they should say OK, let’s go out with a bang here and do well. But sometimes when you have those big losses it’s usually the week after where you really cannot get back up. But it’s going to be almost four weeks difference so they should be fine.
JG: I think it’d be fun if you saw a mixture of the seniors getting some good time and get some of the younger guys some playing time as well. That would be ideal, just to kind of bring out the old bring in the new. Hand it over.
DF: Hey, speaking of bouncing back, Mike, the Utes bounced back from a deficit against BYU. That sounds like an exciting game up at the Huntsman Center.
MS: That was amazing. You know, I follow the Utes, have been at the most their games this year. And I really thought they had no chance, and especially when they’re down 16 points with 13 minutes to go. I mean, it was just inevitable they were gonna lose. And then these guys just kept scrapping away and chipping away. You know, these guys are all 19-year-olds and I joke about them playing against a bunch of 27-year-olds, but they were in there just playing well and going at it. Rylan Jones, who is just out of high school, kind of lead the come back. And Timmy Allen, they’re both teenagers and it was amazing. They tied the game and just dominated the overtime so I was really surprised.
JG: I think that’s a good win. I know Yoeli Childs and TJ Haws were both out of the game later on, but that’s still a really solid quality win for Utah. BYU won in Houston. BYU is a nice team. I just keep getting more and more impressed by Rylan Jones and this entire Utah team. I think Coach K has done a really nice job of teaching them. They could be the surprise of the Pac-12.
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DF: Let’s close this thing out. I wanted to bring Ritchie Steadman, our guru, on for just a second. He made a prediction last week.
Richie Steadman: I’m a guru apparently. Well so the prediction that Dirk is talking about is as we talked last week after the show I said, you know what, whoever scores first, that’s game over. And the reason being, and people will hate this, is I don’t feel like the Utes really got challenged altogether that much this year. USC, certainly, and they lost. A couple other teams, Washington we thought would be better than they were. And so the thing that I thought was there was so much hype around the University of Utah that they sort of bought into it. As much as Whittingham will say, oh, you know, it’s just a game and we’re just going for it. I feel like they can’t help but buy into it a little bit. It’s so pivotal that, like we’ve already discussed, that if they would have won it would have been likely the playoffs. It would have for sure, at very least, been the Rose Bowl. It was such a big game that they got in their heads. They played a really great team. And once they were behind, they just couldn’t figure it out. They couldn’t get out of their heads and get back on the field to be able to do it. Even though that third or fourth quarter they started to really make an effort back, it was it was too little too late. I pointed to the — you don’t do outfield for football — but I pointed to the end zone, just like Babe himself. I was covering the game at Levi’s Stadium and I got a text from you so.
JG: I’m gonna call Richie out because he did that off air. So next time do it on air.
RS: Here I’ll do this coming up for the Alamo Bowl. It is my very strong feeling that the Utes will win, but they won’t come back until the second half. It will be a slow start Ute game. And because of the home advantage that Texas has, it will have to be a comeback from halftime in order for the Utes to win. But they will win the game.
DF: It’s on the record. Richie does a great job. He puts our podcast together. We appreciate him and I told him if he was right, we’d bring him on the podcast this week and he was right.
JG: He’s the best looking man in the room too.
DF: He’s handsome. He has a full set of hair on his head.
JG: That gives him a long head start.
DF: All right hey, let’s close this thing out, Mike. The Utes have got a South Carolina transfer coming. From what I’m hearing it’s Cameron Rising’s job and Jason Shelley’s obviously in the mix. Is there room for another quarterback?
MS: Yes that’s one of the problems in college football. You can’t have five quarterbacks, you know, like any other position. Because if you think you’re good and you can’t play then you’re going to transfer. So I think it’s good to have him you know coming in, but the job right now is Rising’s or Shelley’s. Shelley’s been around and so this guy’s got to beat those two out. And then if he does, one of those two guys maybe move on.
DF: Utah volleyball in the Sweet 16
MS: Yeah, I was just up there talking to Beth Launiere about an hour ago and they were just excited as heck about that win. You know they went down to Provo, they had to play two Final Four teams from last year. They beat Illinois in five sets. And then they beat BYU, who they’ve struggled with over the years. They lost to them two of the last four years in the same situation. They beat them 25-15 three times in a row. It was really unbelievable. That’s usually what they do in a preseason game. And I asked her what happened and she just said, everything came together that day. So they had just a great game. Now they have to play Stanford, who they’ve lost to twice this year already. They pretty much lose to them every year. And they’ve got to play them at Stanford. So it’s a big task for the women’s volleyball team. But they feel confident. A couple of their players were there and they think they can go in and win it and move on.
JG: Even just getting the Sweet 16 for them, having to win at Smith Fieldhouse was huge. And, you know they had 11 different matches this year that went to five sets. So they’ve really learned how to overcome some difficult circumstances.
DF: Yeah. Well guys, gymnastics’ Red Rocks Preview is Friday. So it’s getting to be a busy time of the year up on the hill. And the fact that volleyball is still playing just adds to that, doesn’t it?
MS: Yep. And they’re always good in gymnastics. You know I can’t tell you much about who they have right now but they’re always one of the top five or six in the country.
DF: Guys any any closing statements?
JG: I still think this was a terrific Utah football season. Disappointing Pac-12 showing but like you mentioned earlier, to win eight in a row to run the table after that USC loss. I think that there’s a lot to be proud of.
MS: I’ll put a word in for the basketball team. They have three straight neutral site games coming up. They play Weber State this week. They play Kentucky in Las Vegas next week, and they play San Diego State in Los Angeles. I think it’s the first time Utah has ever had a non-tournament, three-neutral site games like that. And they have six altogether this year. So it’s kind of a different thing. But you know it’s kind of a new trend in college basketball and Utah’s one of them and they won’t be back home till January.
DF: Well, you know, if they can get some wins out of these three that’ll obviously help their NCAA resume.
MS: Yeah, especially the next two, they’re both ranked and so it would really help them.
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